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muneca_brava ([personal profile] muneca_brava) wrote2011-03-20 04:43 pm

2 small things to share with the world and one Opinion

I. I've been watching Community because of the campaigning over on Fandom March Madness for Troy. So I just want to say: the season two Christmas episode is the BEST THING EVER. Which is, admittedly, only a slightly better thing than the zombie episode and the paintball episode. I love it when the go meta on that show (which is a lot of the time). Also, Abed and Troy have the most epic bromance ever. I love them.

And I am developing a serious girlcrush on Alison Brie.

II. Glee season one was airing on tv yesterday (the episode "Hello") and I'd put it on for a little while. My mum, who has never even heard of Glee let alone seen anything of it, came by and watched about 5 minutes and this happened:

Mum: "Is the music the only good thing about this show?"

Me:"...Basically, yes."

I love that she figured that out after 5 minutes. I mean, it took me a few episodes to fully realise that!

III. I watched the Doctor Who Children in Need special, and I also listened to the dvd commentary for Sherlock. These two things basically represent perfectly my conflicted feelings on Steven Moffat.

I LOVE Sherlock. I think the concept is worked out perfectly and the writing in the first episode is great. I love hearing Moffat and Gatiss be fanboys about it, and hearing how they worked on it. I can't get around the fact that I really admire the way he writes. That first episode is pretty much perfect in every way: the characters, the plot, the balance between character and story etc. And the way he writes dialogue is probably my favourite ever.

And I had originally decided, after first seeing Sherlock, that I was going to ignore the stupid things he says in favour of the way he writes. But then he writes things like the CiN special, and that becomes REALLY HARD. I'm not that easily offended, I think. It often takes someone else to point sexist writing out to me. And I'm not one of those people who look for it just because it's Moffat. So when I am disgusted by an episode, you KNOW it's bad!

The whole crash is Amy's fault for wearing a skirt? She seduced her driving instructer to pass? Amy totally wants to shag herself? (and no, that last part is not female empowerment, it's male gaze wish-fulfilment - that is not a thing but whatever).
Not to mention the fact that Moffat ALREADY WROTE this special once before.

I'm still kind of looking forward to S6, but mostly for Rory, River Song and the stetson. My expectations are low when it comes to lack of plotholes, characterization and inoffensiveness.

[identity profile] goldy-dollar.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Re: Moffat. UGH it's so true. If only there was a way for him to.... stop talking. The thing about the CiN special too is that it might not have been so offensive if he hadn't been LOL TWO AMY'S MAKE MEN HOT!!!! beforehand so that's the only interpretation you can really take from it.

[identity profile] muneca-brava.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. If it had just been Amy seeing herself and thinking she looks hot, okay. But how it was promoted and executed combined with what we know about Moffat's views just makes it into a male fantasy.

[identity profile] frotcake.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, your mum! ♥ It's true of course. I think I can keep enjoying Glee just for the music though.

I have yet to watch the CiN special :O

[identity profile] muneca-brava.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I really just watch Glee for the songs, and every now and then I like a plot line. Which usually disappears the next episode.

Uhm, enjoy? :S I think I'll ignore its existence, but you don't have my Moffat issues so maybe it won't bother you.

[identity profile] frotcake.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it seems like you can't have a show with good songs and good writing. OK, so I'm just coming to this conclusion because of two shows, but still ... It's too bad.

Hmmm, that does not sound promising. But now I'm even more curious! XD

[identity profile] iluvmusicals.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my god, you are me. No really, EVERYTHING here is something I agree with, from Community to Moffat. I just...I could have dealt with the Amy/Amy even with his disgusting comments about it, but I can't deal with the rest of the sexist bullshit.

[identity profile] muneca-brava.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I mean hinting at Amy/Amy could be okay? Maybe? If approached differently. And possibly in combination with Rory/Rory). But the way Moffat does it is just kind of disgusting to me.

[identity profile] johnmayergirl23.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
IA on all counts!

I'm still kind of looking forward to S6, but mostly for Rory, River Song and the stetson

YES RORY MY SWEET PRINCE. YOU GET NO REAL DEVELOPMENT BUT STILL MANAGE TO BE MY FAVORITE EVER

[identity profile] muneca-brava.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't even hope for development for Rory, but he's always adorable and the greatest :D. Though it would be nice if his 2000 years were acknowledged sometime?

[identity profile] shah-of-blah.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I 100% feel you on the Moffat problem. On the one hand, I think he's an incredibly talented writer. On the other hand...I think he's a sexist idiot. So, you know, it's a bit confusing.

[identity profile] muneca-brava.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's a very strange confusion. And I can live with it when the sexism doesn't come out in his writing, like it doesn't most of the time. But this time it really did so it's harder to separate the two.

[identity profile] shah-of-blah.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen it in some of his previous episodes, like the Library episodes, but it's usually more subtle than "it's Amy's fault that Rory was looking at her because she was dressed provocatively and men just can't control themselves so GOD FORBID IT BE HIS FAULT."

[identity profile] mollivanders.livejournal.com 2011-03-21 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved Sherlock (1 and 3 more than 2) but I hadn't heard about Moffat's feminism problems before. Not exactly looking forward to that but at least I'm forewarned - I'm watching DW with a friend and we're only in S2.

Community S1 is just a bottle of dorky sunshine.

[identity profile] muneca-brava.livejournal.com 2011-03-21 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It sort of depends on who you talk to about Moffat, I guess. And I don't personally think the views he represents in some interviews come out in most of his writing (unless you really start looking for it) - until this particular special. Enjoy watching DW! I love it so very much. Moff's episodes in RTD's run are some of the best so don't be afraid of that.

I'm so happy I got convinced to watch Community! It's happymaking.

[identity profile] hanelissar.livejournal.com 2011-03-21 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
:( I feel the same about Moffat. It's like, he is SUCH an incredible writer, he has such good ideas and he can write crazy-fabulous scripts. But then this insidious sexism just comes bleeding through ALL the time and I hate it. Especially because when it comes up I feel like I should mention that it bugs me, and then people accuse me of being a 'Moffat hater'. And I don't *like* the fact that it's colouring everything for me and I just...oh it makes me sad.

I still retain my hopes for series 6 though. I am determined that it will be awesome, and I'm just going to pretend the CR sketch didn't exist because whilst it was funny it was the same EXACT story as Time Crash and just SO MUCH WRONG.

xxx

[identity profile] muneca-brava.livejournal.com 2011-03-21 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I really don't usually see his sexism too much in his writing - or I'm good at ignoring it in favour of the brilliant writing - but this time it was pretty much impossible. And I agree with how other people tend to see it. This fandom has the tendency to be one OR the other. Love Moffat or hate him, and it's really not that simple.

I was disappointed in parts of S5 and right now I'm kind of focussing on those parts and not looking forward to S6 which is making me sad as well. But I think we can be sure it'll look pretty and Matt Smith will be awesome.